finger control technique

[poumpoumtchak]

hi everyone i would like to know if you had some input about finger control technique,i am actually working on it (thx to minnemann's dvd and chaffee's techniques patterns)but does it only apply for matched grip players?I'm a traditional grip player and how wonder how to use it on my left hand is it possible?

[Pocketime]

Finger control techniques are a crucial part of the drummer arsenal whether you use traditional grip or matched grip. In the MD with Thomas Lang he discusses some nuances of his practice regimen including utilizing Gladstone and Moeller techniques and the roles that the fingers play. The Chaffee stuff is really great and it really is just a matter of concentration and application. Do you use a mirror in your practice regimen? That really helps to facilitate accuracy by being able to see what you are doing and what your execution looks like. PT.

[jonthibault]

Weckl's Back to Basics video is the best explanation of Trad Grip finger technique I've seen. It's tough, though, to learn and practice from the video alone, and if you can find a teacher who's really into traditional grip, he should be able to help you with it.

It looks bitchin' when you get it down.

[matricks]

Yeah, a teacher is the easiest way. The way Minnemann works each finger on it's own, do the same with the trad grip. Work the thumb, index, maybe even middle. Do rudiments between them, just to get them used to working and not being stumps, just helping a bit. It is endless what you can do to work them... just work them! Try as many techniques as possible, the ones that make the most sense to you and feel the best/produce the best results will most likely seep into your playing, without even thinking about it too much.

[poumpoumtchak]

thx guys for your replys i guess i'll have to check this out Poum

[sean b. tinio]

originally posted by: jonthibault

Weckl's Back to Basics video is the best explanation of Trad Grip finger technique I've seen. It's tough, though, to learn and practice from the video alone, and if you can find a teacher who's really into traditional grip, he should be able to help you with it.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I haven't seen the back to basics video yet but I have Weckl's "Next Step" and Evolution "technique" and "how to practice"... As I can understand he's saying that He changed his approach to playing trad... well I may have mis-understood...

yup a drum instructor is still the best guide.. I'm planning to get some drum instructing too...

[FuseU1]

Originally posted by jonthibault:
It looks bitchin' when you get it down.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL
Too bad it aint as "logical" as MG... ;c) [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]redface.gif[/img] [img]biggrin.gif[/img] [J/K, of course!]

Yeah, matricks, Simon did similar [as Minnemann], also. In addition to what you just mentioned, in the mid/late 80s, for practicing, SP talked about actually "turning" the LH-TG: instead of palm basically "up," turning the LH as if it was in somewhat a waving position, palm somewhat vertical or "out," so that the fingers are above the stick, over the snare, practicing each fingers' bounce-control against the stick, one at a time, each in succession, letting ithe stick bounce against the sn, doing even, SnglStrk groupings [1's, 2's, 3's 4's, 5's, on & on] at diff tempos, of course...& even the freakin' PINKY! [img]eek.gif[/img] Then he demonstrated it cleanly, precisely, & rapidly, eliciting that same face from much of the audience... :cp

...Seek leetle monkee...dern technq phreeks... ;c) [img]cool.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ November 23, 2004 12:45 PM: Message edited by: fuseU1 ]</font>

[FuseU1]

Also, in addition, practice practice practice on a reel feel pad or the like {AWA snare / muffled snare). Study your grip intently as you go.

Let the stick rebound instead of forcing it down to do what you want it to..."relaxed grip," letting the stick [with the fingers] do most of the work...ah, i guess this is an obvious given [img]graemlins/hmmm.gif[/img] [img]redface.gif[/img]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ November 24, 2004 12:37 PM: Message edited by: fuseU1 ]</font>